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	<title>Comments on: Talkin&#8217; &#8217;bout litracy  lol &#8211; I&#8217;ll get pwn3d.</title>
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		<title>By: The Blog of Ms. Mercer &#187; From Paper and Pencil vs. digital writing</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Blog of Ms. Mercer &#187; From Paper and Pencil vs. digital writing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 04:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It brought me back to an earlier post on Dave Cormier&#8217;s blog where he discussed how the medium (paper) limited the message. Looking at the reality of the near term, it seems my students will continue to have formal assessments on paper, so I will have to teach them to go between these two mediums in their writing. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It brought me back to an earlier post on Dave Cormier&#8217;s blog where he discussed how the medium (paper) limited the message. Looking at the reality of the near term, it seems my students will continue to have formal assessments on paper, so I will have to teach them to go between these two mediums in their writing. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Writing the digital and Second Life architecture. &#124; Dave&#8217;s Educational Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Writing the digital and Second Life architecture. &#124; Dave&#8217;s Educational Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 01:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Was reminded again today how interesting it can be to be part of a blogging community. I received this pingback from the &#8216;Discourse about Discourse&#8216; blog regarding my last post about writing in our current post-paper age. In that post i laid the groundwork for an argument about what it must mean to do academic writing now that the limitation of paper has been removed from our work. I&#8217;ve been debating about the follow up I planned to write on that issue but have been drawn slightly sideways by the post listed above. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Was reminded again today how interesting it can be to be part of a blogging community. I received this pingback from the &#8216;Discourse about Discourse&#8216; blog regarding my last post about writing in our current post-paper age. In that post i laid the groundwork for an argument about what it must mean to do academic writing now that the limitation of paper has been removed from our work. I&#8217;ve been debating about the follow up I planned to write on that issue but have been drawn slightly sideways by the post listed above. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Discource about Discourse &#124; Paper is outdated.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Discource about Discourse &#124; Paper is outdated.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dave Cormier turned me on to the idea that we are still writing for the technology of paper, even if we have moved beyond it in terms of its capabilities. I found intriguing and more than a little frustrating to think that we are still formatting our ideas to be read in a linear and static text form. We have put so much investment as a society in the technology of paper that very few people are ready or able to move past it. Yet, in order to fulfill the potential of a fully connected society, we must start to think in new ways, read in new ways, and especially write in new ways. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Dave Cormier turned me on to the idea that we are still writing for the technology of paper, even if we have moved beyond it in terms of its capabilities. I found intriguing and more than a little frustrating to think that we are still formatting our ideas to be read in a linear and static text form. We have put so much investment as a society in the technology of paper that very few people are ready or able to move past it. Yet, in order to fulfill the potential of a fully connected society, we must start to think in new ways, read in new ways, and especially write in new ways. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Blog of Ms. Mercer &#187; Where I&#8217;ve been this week on the Web&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Blog of Ms. Mercer &#187; Where I&#8217;ve been this week on the Web&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 02:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Comment on the Middlbury College ban on Wikipedia on Dave Cormier&#8217;s blog [...]</description>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 10:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karen,

it does seem a little odd doesn&#039;t it... being forced to work in a tired medium. And I know what you mean about writing for the web. I&#039;ve had students come to me and critique my blogging style saying that this was not what I was teaching in class. To which, with a smile I always answer... you&#039;re quite right. :)

Alice,

very interesting point about the medium argument working on both ends. One of the people that I&#039;ve been talking to about this teaches comparative religion. We&#039;ve been promising each other that we would get together on this question soon... I think that your point will probably be a central one.
oh. And I&#039;m a bibliophile. The book i&#039;m... uh... most reading right now is a very nice 1916 copy of Gregory of Tour&#039;s Historia Francorum (in English... sadly... my latin is next to non-existent). So I&#039;m not ready to burn all the paper yet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen,</p>
<p>it does seem a little odd doesn&#8217;t it&#8230; being forced to work in a tired medium. And I know what you mean about writing for the web. I&#8217;ve had students come to me and critique my blogging style saying that this was not what I was teaching in class. To which, with a smile I always answer&#8230; you&#8217;re quite right. <img src='http://davecormier.com/edblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Alice,</p>
<p>very interesting point about the medium argument working on both ends. One of the people that I&#8217;ve been talking to about this teaches comparative religion. We&#8217;ve been promising each other that we would get together on this question soon&#8230; I think that your point will probably be a central one.<br />
oh. And I&#8217;m a bibliophile. The book i&#8217;m&#8230; uh&#8230; most reading right now is a very nice 1916 copy of Gregory of Tour&#8217;s Historia Francorum (in English&#8230; sadly&#8230; my latin is next to non-existent). So I&#8217;m not ready to burn all the paper yet!</p>
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		<title>By: A. Mercer</title>
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		<dc:creator>A. Mercer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 05:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave, we had a discussion on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.edtechtalk.com/node/1508&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;EdTechTalk&lt;/a&gt; about the Middlebury College/Wikipedia issue. I wanted you to know that I have thought about and I&#039;m still thinking about many of the points you made there and here. In particular, I&#039;m revisting my memories of being a History student as an undergraduate. I don&#039;t have more to share at this point, but you got me thinking.

Why paper? I&#039;m not going to talk about why I love paper, or other people should, or some other Luddite rambling. In the study of history, there is no way and will be no way to avoid the ties to paper because no matter how many old texts Google scans and uploads to the Internet, the sheer volume of paper records from the start of writing on that medium until this point is huge. Historians looking back will be working with paper. An example of that would be this week&#039;s revelation of missing letters from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7400998&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Otto Frank&lt;/a&gt;.  Now, that doesn&#039;t mean that they won&#039;t be able to do their written work in other mediums. This post seems to be saying that the medium for your output (paper) shapes the message when you are creating. It may not shape it the same way, but I think the medium for your input -- old paper records -- can also shape how and what you see in the message. This will not be changing for historians at higher levels (where they use primary sources) anytime soon.

Thanks for sharing, listening, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave, we had a discussion on <a href="http://www.edtechtalk.com/node/1508" rel="nofollow">EdTechTalk</a> about the Middlebury College/Wikipedia issue. I wanted you to know that I have thought about and I&#8217;m still thinking about many of the points you made there and here. In particular, I&#8217;m revisting my memories of being a History student as an undergraduate. I don&#8217;t have more to share at this point, but you got me thinking.</p>
<p>Why paper? I&#8217;m not going to talk about why I love paper, or other people should, or some other Luddite rambling. In the study of history, there is no way and will be no way to avoid the ties to paper because no matter how many old texts Google scans and uploads to the Internet, the sheer volume of paper records from the start of writing on that medium until this point is huge. Historians looking back will be working with paper. An example of that would be this week&#8217;s revelation of missing letters from <a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7400998" rel="nofollow">Otto Frank</a>.  Now, that doesn&#8217;t mean that they won&#8217;t be able to do their written work in other mediums. This post seems to be saying that the medium for your output (paper) shapes the message when you are creating. It may not shape it the same way, but I think the medium for your input &#8212; old paper records &#8212; can also shape how and what you see in the message. This will not be changing for historians at higher levels (where they use primary sources) anytime soon.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing, listening, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Karyn Romeis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karyn Romeis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When George Siemens transferred &quot;Knowing Knowledge&quot; to the print medium, he came up against challenges of the medium that made the transfer of an online publication less than straightforward. 

Increasingly, I am finding that I write for the web. With (aming other things) hyperlinks instead of references, and navigation links instead of section numbers. I now find the concept of linear navigation and section numbering restrictive. However, for my Masters&#039; degree, this is the required format. I am permitted to submit an electronic copy of my papers, but it must be an electronic copy of a &lt;b&gt;print&lt;/b&gt; medium document, complete with Harvard referencing, and the hard copy must also be supplied. Since I am focusing largely on the impact of ICT on teaching and learning, and on collaborative and networked learning, it seems odd to revert to a medium best suited to a totally different approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When George Siemens transferred &#8220;Knowing Knowledge&#8221; to the print medium, he came up against challenges of the medium that made the transfer of an online publication less than straightforward. </p>
<p>Increasingly, I am finding that I write for the web. With (aming other things) hyperlinks instead of references, and navigation links instead of section numbers. I now find the concept of linear navigation and section numbering restrictive. However, for my Masters&#8217; degree, this is the required format. I am permitted to submit an electronic copy of my papers, but it must be an electronic copy of a <b>print</b> medium document, complete with Harvard referencing, and the hard copy must also be supplied. Since I am focusing largely on the impact of ICT on teaching and learning, and on collaborative and networked learning, it seems odd to revert to a medium best suited to a totally different approach.</p>
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