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	<title>Comments on: OERs shining light, new textbook model, or harbinger of a new imperialism.</title>
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		<title>By: philosophy and OERs &#187; Feel Do Think:</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and OERs   An article and a blogpost that put together the way French postmodernists see knowledge and the spread of OERs from highly [...]</description>
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		<title>By: susanow84b (Susanne Hanson)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 06:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Stian Håklev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stian Håklev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 02:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I pursued some of these ideas further here: http://reganmian.net/blog/2009/08/27/encouraging-sharing-without-getting-all-lawyery/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I pursued some of these ideas further here: <a href="http://reganmian.net/blog/2009/08/27/encouraging-sharing-without-getting-all-lawyery/" rel="nofollow">http://reganmian.net/blog/2009/08/27/encouraging-sharing-without-getting-all-lawyery/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Random Stuff that Matters &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Encouraging sharing without getting all lawyery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Random Stuff that Matters &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Encouraging sharing without getting all lawyery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 02:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] both Leigh Blackall and Dave Cormier have blogged about OER as the new colonialism, and on both blogs there were lively discussions in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Stian Håklev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stian Håklev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Came here from Leigh Blackall&#039;s blog discussing OER and colonialism. 

I think you make some good points, but I thought I&#039;d chime in with some of my own thoughts about non-Western OER, which I have thought a lot about. First of all - although MIT material is being translated to Chinese, both by CORE and MyOOPS, I have found no evidence that it is actually used in classes (I was going to write my MA thesis about this - thinking, like you, it was problematic, but had to change focus, because I couldn&#039;t find any examples).

What has happened, is that universities (which are, like you said, obsessed with becoming &quot;world class&quot; and thinking MITHARVARD is the gold standard - which is deeply problematic!) have used the open curricula for comparative research, even publishing studies comparing Chinese and US curricula. And I&#039;ve talked to individual professors who have consulted these curricula to update their own courses. (Cross-national comparison and learning is not bad, but I wish it learnt from many more countries/institutions than just US/MITHARVARD). 

What&#039;s happening in China is that the Chinese government is funding the development of open courses, including hundreds of universities and thousands of courses. And for me, studying comparative education, it&#039;s been incredible to be able to &quot;virtually visit&quot; courses from India, China, Mexico, Japan, Saudi Arabia etc. (And I wish these would get much more attention, like the amazing release of 16,000 teaching documents by the Indira Gandhi National Open University! Who is talking about that? (http://reganmian.net/blog/2008/12/05/worlds-largest-university-opens-almost-all-its-materials/)

About the curvy stuff, I think this is one of the main drivers behind our P2PU experiment - we use the OER out there, but in a very critical manner. 

Stian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Came here from Leigh Blackall&#8217;s blog discussing OER and colonialism. </p>
<p>I think you make some good points, but I thought I&#8217;d chime in with some of my own thoughts about non-Western OER, which I have thought a lot about. First of all &#8211; although MIT material is being translated to Chinese, both by CORE and MyOOPS, I have found no evidence that it is actually used in classes (I was going to write my MA thesis about this &#8211; thinking, like you, it was problematic, but had to change focus, because I couldn&#8217;t find any examples).</p>
<p>What has happened, is that universities (which are, like you said, obsessed with becoming &#8220;world class&#8221; and thinking MITHARVARD is the gold standard &#8211; which is deeply problematic!) have used the open curricula for comparative research, even publishing studies comparing Chinese and US curricula. And I&#8217;ve talked to individual professors who have consulted these curricula to update their own courses. (Cross-national comparison and learning is not bad, but I wish it learnt from many more countries/institutions than just US/MITHARVARD). </p>
<p>What&#8217;s happening in China is that the Chinese government is funding the development of open courses, including hundreds of universities and thousands of courses. And for me, studying comparative education, it&#8217;s been incredible to be able to &#8220;virtually visit&#8221; courses from India, China, Mexico, Japan, Saudi Arabia etc. (And I wish these would get much more attention, like the amazing release of 16,000 teaching documents by the Indira Gandhi National Open University! Who is talking about that? (<a href="http://reganmian.net/blog/2008/12/05/worlds-largest-university-opens-almost-all-its-materials/" rel="nofollow">http://reganmian.net/blog/2008/12/05/worlds-largest-university-opens-almost-all-its-materials/</a>)</p>
<p>About the curvy stuff, I think this is one of the main drivers behind our P2PU experiment &#8211; we use the OER out there, but in a very critical manner. </p>
<p>Stian</p>
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		<title>By: Leigh Blackall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leigh Blackall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Valuable post and comments here. I especially like the new light of clarity that Minhaaj brings. Pirating is the best way to share :) that&#039;s great. Imagine the millions of people out there who have learned, been empowered and enjoy income on the back of &quot;pirated&quot; learning. I learned all I know about computing through pirated software. More than 3/4 of the movies I have seen are pirated. I have a lot to thank the pirate industry for. So I&#039;m with Minhaaj.. and its a nice cocktail to combine Minhaaj, Jen, D&#039;Arcy, and Barb. Loved Jen&#039;s first comment: &quot;OER, sounds like the Internet&quot;. Says it all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valuable post and comments here. I especially like the new light of clarity that Minhaaj brings. Pirating is the best way to share <img src='http://davecormier.com/edblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  that&#8217;s great. Imagine the millions of people out there who have learned, been empowered and enjoy income on the back of &#8220;pirated&#8221; learning. I learned all I know about computing through pirated software. More than 3/4 of the movies I have seen are pirated. I have a lot to thank the pirate industry for. So I&#8217;m with Minhaaj.. and its a nice cocktail to combine Minhaaj, Jen, D&#8217;Arcy, and Barb. Loved Jen&#8217;s first comment: &#8220;OER, sounds like the Internet&#8221;. Says it all.</p>
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		<title>By: What are OERs, really? &#124; blog @ Article 26 dot Org</title>
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		<dc:creator>What are OERs, really? &#124; blog @ Article 26 dot Org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Cormier is someone I listen to often on edtechtalk. This blog post has been much talked about in OER circles of late. I think his critical analysis is spot on.   [...]</description>
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		<title>By: minhaaj ur rehman</title>
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		<dc:creator>minhaaj ur rehman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My work for years with OER and FOSS/FLOSS has been only because of my belief that it is definitely a way to import copyrighted knowledge into free domain for western audiences sooner or later. All professional writers and content creators know that almost every new book is a very intelligent rewritting of existing work. In western world OER is a great strategy by using creative commons to pull it to public domain but in east here, we are not enthusiastic about copyrights or creative commons. Piracy if you want to call it, is a great way to share resources among people and i truly feel this is the best possible way to share resources. Whatever explanation western world might have for revering copyrights, we here have been successful in keeping it away.
http://minhaaj.blogspot.com/2009/02/answers-to-questions-i-have-been-asked.html
This might help in understanding view that might sound to simplistic in this comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My work for years with OER and FOSS/FLOSS has been only because of my belief that it is definitely a way to import copyrighted knowledge into free domain for western audiences sooner or later. All professional writers and content creators know that almost every new book is a very intelligent rewritting of existing work. In western world OER is a great strategy by using creative commons to pull it to public domain but in east here, we are not enthusiastic about copyrights or creative commons. Piracy if you want to call it, is a great way to share resources among people and i truly feel this is the best possible way to share resources. Whatever explanation western world might have for revering copyrights, we here have been successful in keeping it away.<br />
<a href="http://minhaaj.blogspot.com/2009/02/answers-to-questions-i-have-been-asked.html" rel="nofollow">http://minhaaj.blogspot.com/2009/02/answers-to-questions-i-have-been-asked.html</a><br />
This might help in understanding view that might sound to simplistic in this comment.</p>
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		<title>By: International Educational Directory &#62; Informal learning hot list for February 2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>International Educational Directory &#62; Informal learning hot list for February 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 12:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] OERs sunshiny light, newborn book model, or indication of a newborn imperialism. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dave Cormier on “OERs Shining Light” &#124; Educationload.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Cormier on “OERs Shining Light” &#124; Educationload.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it applies to textbooks in the most recent EdTechTalk podcast. An accompanying post can be found at Cormier&#8217;s blog. From his blog: Freeing knowledge is a good thing. Freeing content, on the other hand, is a bit [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it applies to textbooks in the most recent EdTechTalk podcast. An accompanying post can be found at Cormier&#8217;s blog. From his blog: Freeing knowledge is a good thing. Freeing content, on the other hand, is a bit [...]</p>
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