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	<title>Comments on: My dream of an open course &#8211; Bob Dylan MOOC</title>
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		<title>By: Rocky Wilson</title>
		<link>http://davecormier.com/edblog/2009/07/18/my-dream-of-an-open-course-bob-dylan-mooc/comment-page-1/#comment-186136</link>
		<dc:creator>Rocky Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might be interested to know that I just posted two blogs on Bob Dylan at effectualhistory.blogspot.com. Best of all in your endeavors. And, I commend you on being ranked #2 on Twitter-grader&#039;s list under the topic Shar-pei. My Shar-pei/black lab mix, Masu, is a wonderful, loving creature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might be interested to know that I just posted two blogs on Bob Dylan at effectualhistory.blogspot.com. Best of all in your endeavors. And, I commend you on being ranked #2 on Twitter-grader&#8217;s list under the topic Shar-pei. My Shar-pei/black lab mix, Masu, is a wonderful, loving creature.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://davecormier.com/edblog/2009/07/18/my-dream-of-an-open-course-bob-dylan-mooc/comment-page-1/#comment-185927</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are many pre-existing communities and I have no real desire of being outside of them nor of creating a guild style community outside of what is out there. 

I get asked, fairly frequently, where to &#039;start&#039; with dylan and &#039;what all the fuss is about&#039;. I love that discussion. 

The &#039;cohort based approach&#039; can be really helpful to people, like Alan maybe, who&#039;ve always kinda wanted to learn a little more, but have not had the energy to devote to &#039;this particular thing&#039;. 

You want to have an inverted comma fight? I&#039;m ur man!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many pre-existing communities and I have no real desire of being outside of them nor of creating a guild style community outside of what is out there. </p>
<p>I get asked, fairly frequently, where to &#8216;start&#8217; with dylan and &#8216;what all the fuss is about&#8217;. I love that discussion. </p>
<p>The &#8216;cohort based approach&#8217; can be really helpful to people, like Alan maybe, who&#8217;ve always kinda wanted to learn a little more, but have not had the energy to devote to &#8216;this particular thing&#8217;. </p>
<p>You want to have an inverted comma fight? I&#8217;m ur man!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Leslie</title>
		<link>http://davecormier.com/edblog/2009/07/18/my-dream-of-an-open-course-bob-dylan-mooc/comment-page-1/#comment-185926</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not equating &quot;community&quot; with website; I&#039;m equating &quot;community&quot; with a &quot;group of people sharing common interests and bonds doing something together,&quot; and pointed to that one simply to make the point that there are already existing groups learning about Dylan, and learning how to join existing communities is a key skill for network learners, IMO. Further, many of these pre-existing communities (whether they be in music, gaming, software development) do a wonderful job of welcoming in newcomers and pointing them towards some well worn paths (cf beginner question forums, FAQs, sticky posts, on and on) without having to dopt some cohort-based approach.

By all means, don&#039;t let me stop you. It just struck me as quite an odd proposal given the nature and need of what you were learning, to start adopting rather &#039;formal&#039; structures. But fill yer boots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not equating &#8220;community&#8221; with website; I&#8217;m equating &#8220;community&#8221; with a &#8220;group of people sharing common interests and bonds doing something together,&#8221; and pointed to that one simply to make the point that there are already existing groups learning about Dylan, and learning how to join existing communities is a key skill for network learners, IMO. Further, many of these pre-existing communities (whether they be in music, gaming, software development) do a wonderful job of welcoming in newcomers and pointing them towards some well worn paths (cf beginner question forums, FAQs, sticky posts, on and on) without having to dopt some cohort-based approach.</p>
<p>By all means, don&#8217;t let me stop you. It just struck me as quite an odd proposal given the nature and need of what you were learning, to start adopting rather &#8216;formal&#8217; structures. But fill yer boots.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, further, you seem to be equating &#039;community&#039; with &#039;website&#039;. If 25 of my peeps (or 1000) get together to wander around the interwebs learning about dylan, swapping topics to pursue, debating obscurata I would expect it to be decentralized. 

the eventedness stuff is here http://davecormier.com/edblog/2009/04/15/bjet-article-muve-eventedness-an-experience-like-any-other/ but i seem to remember having sent that to you before. 

There is a great deal of tension in the language, playing in the tension is part of the fun. Exploring those at the same time as the &#039;content&#039;. I learned a great deal from my involvement in CCK08 last year and would like to try something more disconnected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, further, you seem to be equating &#8216;community&#8217; with &#8216;website&#8217;. If 25 of my peeps (or 1000) get together to wander around the interwebs learning about dylan, swapping topics to pursue, debating obscurata I would expect it to be decentralized. </p>
<p>the eventedness stuff is here <a href="http://davecormier.com/edblog/2009/04/15/bjet-article-muve-eventedness-an-experience-like-any-other/" rel="nofollow">http://davecormier.com/edblog/2009/04/15/bjet-article-muve-eventedness-an-experience-like-any-other/</a> but i seem to remember having sent that to you before. </p>
<p>There is a great deal of tension in the language, playing in the tension is part of the fun. Exploring those at the same time as the &#8216;content&#8217;. I learned a great deal from my involvement in CCK08 last year and would like to try something more disconnected.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>because people like a party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>because people like a party.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Leslie</title>
		<link>http://davecormier.com/edblog/2009/07/18/my-dream-of-an-open-course-bob-dylan-mooc/comment-page-1/#comment-185916</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So leaving aside the tension between informal, network learning and &quot;curriculum,&quot; &quot;courses&quot; or &quot;eventedness&quot; for a second, what is the problem with simply joining an existing &quot;community&quot; like http://www.theneverendingpool.com/ and starting to ask questions and read up on whatever topics around &quot;Bob Dylan&quot; you are interested in? I am not sure I understand the need for this to be a &quot;course&quot; or to create another &quot;community&quot; around this. I&#039;m being a bit dense on purpose here, as is my wont, but help me understand. This seems as guilty in making the category error that learning only occurs when it&#039;s *explicitly* the aim as does the mistake of referring to people as &#039;resources.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So leaving aside the tension between informal, network learning and &#8220;curriculum,&#8221; &#8220;courses&#8221; or &#8220;eventedness&#8221; for a second, what is the problem with simply joining an existing &#8220;community&#8221; like <a href="http://www.theneverendingpool.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theneverendingpool.com/</a> and starting to ask questions and read up on whatever topics around &#8220;Bob Dylan&#8221; you are interested in? I am not sure I understand the need for this to be a &#8220;course&#8221; or to create another &#8220;community&#8221; around this. I&#8217;m being a bit dense on purpose here, as is my wont, but help me understand. This seems as guilty in making the category error that learning only occurs when it&#8217;s *explicitly* the aim as does the mistake of referring to people as &#8216;resources.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Levine</title>
		<link>http://davecormier.com/edblog/2009/07/18/my-dream-of-an-open-course-bob-dylan-mooc/comment-page-1/#comment-185809</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Levine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 06:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Dylan neophyte, I am game! Sounds more interesting to me that zombies and pirates ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Dylan neophyte, I am game! Sounds more interesting to me that zombies and pirates <img src='http://davecormier.com/edblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Frances Bell</title>
		<link>http://davecormier.com/edblog/2009/07/18/my-dream-of-an-open-course-bob-dylan-mooc/comment-page-1/#comment-185487</link>
		<dc:creator>Frances Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should have said - you can gain guest access as long you accept the site policy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should have said &#8211; you can gain guest access as long you accept the site policy</p>
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		<title>By: Frances Bell</title>
		<link>http://davecormier.com/edblog/2009/07/18/my-dream-of-an-open-course-bob-dylan-mooc/comment-page-1/#comment-185486</link>
		<dc:creator>Frances Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds great Dave.  A few years ago, Gina Stevens led a music-based course http://www.cabweb.net/portal/mod/resource/view.php?id=852 It was great fun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds great Dave.  A few years ago, Gina Stevens led a music-based course <a href="http://www.cabweb.net/portal/mod/resource/view.php?id=852" rel="nofollow">http://www.cabweb.net/portal/mod/resource/view.php?id=852</a> It was great fun</p>
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