Comments on: Does the PLE make sense in the connectivist context?

By: Dallas McPheeters

Dallas McPheeters — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:24:32 +0000

Most of the so-called PLEs I’ve seen are nothing more than Personal Information Aggregators that feed information of interest to individual users. Learning implies capacity or skill is increased. Information alone may reduce risk but only education increases capacity. If you are saying that connectivist groups can be better informed, I would agree. But being informed is not the same as learning per se. We know the knowledge resides in the network. So where does the learning reside? That’s the real question and the determining factor of whether or not you have a PLE or whatever name you wish to call it.

By: jsuzcampos (Jeannette Campos)

jsuzcampos (Jeannette Campos) — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:36:01 +0000

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Lots to consider in @davecormier's post "Does the PLE make sense in the connectivist context?" [link to post]

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By: digitimmigrant (Leonie Koch)

digitimmigrant (Leonie Koch) — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:19:00 +0000

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E-Learning: Lassen sich PLE/PLN & Connectivismus gegeneinander ausspielen über die Begriffe Kontrolle und Eigentum? [link to post]

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Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:11:14 +0000

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By: Nick

Nick — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:45:28 +0000

Re: Does is make sense for a ‘network’ to be ‘personal’. What does it mean for a network to be personal? do you somehow have special control over it? Sounds like a group to me and not a network

The first question as to whether it makes sense is at the core of the debate on PLE’s vs VLEs that those who are criticising the Government’s money being plowed into VLEs in education, are using with a fair degree of validity. I suppose the question comes down to two things imo:
1 – Can the technology on which a network sits i.e. the VLE keep up with the demands of its users both now and the future demands?
2 – Do users want to be ring-fenced in such a way?

If either or both of the these questions can not be answered yes then PLEs are the way forward are they not or an alternative could be to let everyone have PLEs while education remains in a VLE. Another altenative could be to have a VLE that is flexible enough to accomodate other apps i.e. somewhere between the 2. And no, SCORM is not that flexible really is it?!?!?

Re a network being personal to my mind means you have control over the tools you use, the way you use those tools and combine various resources to your own end. So, in that respect a PLE can be a controlled personal network. To say it is just a group suggests that a user only control of who/what is involved yet a PLE is surely much more than that. It is also how these elements are involved and how they are brought together, used to one’s own personal gain.

Hmmm…….

By: gtouze (Guillaume Touzé)

gtouze (Guillaume Touzé) — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:36:55 +0000

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RT @fduport: lecture pour réfléchir au concept d'environnement d'apprentissage personnel: un article de @davecormier [link to post]

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By: admin

admin — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:42:50 +0000

@Frances @Nick yes. I understand that the usage of the term personal in the term Personal Learning Environment means that it is personal. My question remains, does that make sense from a connectivist point of view.

I don’t doubt that lots and lots of people see PLEs that way. Does is make sense for a ‘network’ to be ‘personal’. What does it mean for a network to be personal? do you somehow have special control over it? Sounds like a group to me and not a network.

By: Nick

Nick — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:14:32 +0000

To my mind, a PLE is as the acronym suggests, an environment for learning that is personal. Therefore, it can be made up of a network or networks, applications, tools, documents, contacts, the work of contacts, etc etc. The term has arisen surely as a response to VLE where as you have mentioned, there is a sense of ownership of a body to which a user is subscribed. This means that all those elements of the environment must be stored within that one environment rather than one of a possible set of environments which could and often do make up a PLE. Catch my drift?!?!!?

By: pgiroux (pgiroux)

pgiroux (pgiroux) — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:44:59 +0000

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lecture pour réfléchir au concept d'environnement d'apprentissage personnel: un article de @davecormier [link to post]

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By: manzerbe (Bernard Manzerolle)

manzerbe (Bernard Manzerolle) — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:52:53 +0000

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RT @pgiroux: lecture pour réfléchir au concept d'environnement d'apprentissage personnel: un article de @davecormier [link to post]

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