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		<title>Community Responsibility vol 1 &#8211; OMG is this a community?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Preamble This first post in the series of Community Responsibillity vs &#8220;The tragedy of the commons&#8221; is an attempt to lay the groundwork for the weeks to come and to start to tune the antanae to the idea of community. Where does it start and end? How do I know that I&#8217;m in a community? <a href='http://davecormier.com/edblog/2008/11/13/community-responsibility-vol-1-omg-is-this-a-community/'>[...]</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="socialize-in-content" style="float:left;"><div class="socialize-in-button socialize-in-button-left"><a href="http://twitter.com/share" class="twitter-share-button" data-url="http://davecormier.com/edblog/2008/11/13/community-responsibility-vol-1-omg-is-this-a-community/" data-text="Community Responsibility vol 1 &#8211; OMG is this a community?" data-count="vertical" data-via="socializeWP" ><!--Tweetter--></a></div><div class="socialize-in-button socialize-in-button-left"><iframe src="http://www.facebook.com/plugins/like.php?href=http://davecormier.com/edblog/2008/11/13/community-responsibility-vol-1-omg-is-this-a-community/&amp;layout=box_count&amp;show_faces=false&amp;width=50&amp;action=like&amp;font=arial&amp;colorscheme=light&amp;height=65" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" style="border:none; overflow:hidden; width:50px !important; height:65px;" allowTransparency="true"></iframe></div></div><p><strong>Preamble</strong><br />
This first post in the series of Community Responsibillity vs &#8220;The tragedy of the commons&#8221; is an attempt to lay the groundwork for the weeks to come and to start to tune the antanae to the idea of community. Where does it start and end? How do I know that I&#8217;m in a community? What should I do now that I&#8217;ve come to terms that I&#8217;m in one? These questions are at the heart of the community explorer&#8217;s mind as they wander through the internets&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Critical Point &#8211; Community vs. Network</strong><br />
In taking part in the CCK08 project I&#8217;ve come to believe that the distinction between these two concepts is critical to undestanding ourselves as net citizens. There is a distinction here that leads directly to whether or not you are &#8216;responsible&#8217; in an ethical sense or &#8216;obliged&#8217; in a legal sense. If you are in a community you are, in some way, responsible to that community, in a network you are responsible to yourself and the rules that govern you are those set forth by our society as laws.</p>
<p>Hence the critical need for being able to distinguish between them.</p>
<p><strong>My Guest &#8211; <a href="http://www.fullcirc.com/wp/">Nancy White</a></strong><br />
Some highlights from the discussion with Nancy are detailed with the time they can be found at below. The conversation went a little longer than i&#8217;d intended, but the depth of her experience in the field of communities made it to hard to not keep asking questions. There are some nice thoughts here about how the &#8216;we&#8217; takes over from the me in the transition to community and how reciprocity is the Number 1 most important thing in a community environment. </p>
<p>[audio:Interview_with_nancy_white_about_communities.mp3]</p>
<p>1:05 Nancy : Community is a group of people who care about something over a period of time.<br />
1:56 Nancy : A community should be as concerned about we as they are about me.<br />
4:00 Nancy : Communities can emerge at what starts out as an information connection into a personal relationship<br />
4:31 Dave : So what happens to us on that transition, what qualities change or morph or adapt when we make that transition from network to community&#8230; as that cluster begins to emerge?<br />
7:00 Nancy : Reciprocity as key to communities. Making reciprocity visible.<br />
9:55 Nancy : fundamentally there&#8217;s alot that we know about offline human interaction that we seem to just for let disappear when we go online.<br />
11:00 approaching an established community: the great value of newbies to communties.<br />
14:00 managing multiple-memberships: managing your own expectations<br />
15:58 How many functional relationships can you really have at one time?<br />
16:20 The Well and why it works for Nancy.<br />
19:00 Community scaling up to where there was not enough we.<br />
<em>Community is about that interplay of invitation and response&#8230; it&#8217;s like improv, make the other person look good and get what you want. That&#8217;s my personal values on communities&#8230; I&#8217;m not saying that other people should ascribe to them but to me that gets to the core.</em></p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Community-Structure-Belonging-Peter-Block/dp/1576754871">Recommendation from Nancy : Peter Block &#8211; community the structure of belonging</a>. </p>
<p><strong>Another Project along similar lines</strong><br />
A very current project along similar lines of this one is Bud Hunts excellent K12-online presentation entitled &#8220;<a href="http://k12onlineconference.org/?p=363">The Lie of Community</a>&#8220;. He did <a href="http://budtheteacher.com/lieofcommunity">several interviews</a> of which <a href="http://budtheteacher.com/lieofcommunity/?p=20">i was fortunate enough to be one</a> and they accompanied a really excellent 20 min audio presentation. </p>
<p>A key point that comes out of his presentation is to understand that there is no &#8216;one&#8217; community out there&#8230; no model for which we can apply a single set of rules or guidelines or best practices. He takes a really nice people based approach to the discussion and gives people a really nice sense of what his community means to him. And hopes to continue the conversation&#8230; hopefully we&#8217;ll get some nice crossovers between what he&#8217;s doing and what I&#8217;m trying to do here.</p>
<p><strong>Something i ran into while working on this</strong><br />
This is a really neat discussion of Open Source communities and how they are managed&#8230; (add on note: <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/david_a_eaves">by david e. eaves</a> and <a href="http://eaves.ca/">his main site</a></p>
<div style="width:425px;text-align:center" id="__ss_183044"><a style="font:14px Helvetica,Arial,Sans-serif;display:block;margin:12px 0 3px 0;text-decoration:underline;" href="http://www.slideshare.net/david_a_eaves/community-management-presentation?type=powerpoint" title="Community Management Presentation">Community Management Presentation</a><object style="margin:0px" width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://static.slideshare.net/swf/ssplayer2.swf?doc=community-management-presentation-1196202082806399-2&#038;stripped_title=community-management-presentation" /><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"/><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"/><embed src="http://static.slideshare.net/swf/ssplayer2.swf?doc=community-management-presentation-1196202082806399-2&#038;stripped_title=community-management-presentation" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>
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<p><strong><a href="http://davecormier.com/edblog/audio/Interview_with_nancy_white_about_communities.mp3">download audio with nancy</a></strong></p>
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