Comments on: Google + Google makes the same mistake on the three questions for tech adoption

By: Nellie Deutsch

Nellie Deutsch — Thu, 07 Jul 2011 11:27:32 +0000

I yearn to use google+ with eduMOOC. It would be so much easier than using the current eduMOOC google group discussions.

By: admin

admin — Wed, 06 Jul 2011 13:11:15 +0000

@darren fair enough. and myspace certainly did fall apart…

By: darren

darren — Wed, 06 Jul 2011 11:47:32 +0000

hey Dave,

Agree & Disagree. People will gradually move to google+ because, as you stated Facebook is confusing and (me) bloated and poorly organised. Time will tell but good on google for trying again.

By: Mary

Mary — Wed, 06 Jul 2011 09:37:48 +0000

Good questions and good discussion of this topic Dave and others. I finished my thesis long ago, but my learning did not stop. The new tools make it possible to stay in touch with ideas in a variety of ways. I can see the reason that google, facebook, and others want to create new tools and improve on old tools. Learning to use the new tools seems to me to be intuitive–children do this all the time, but finding the time to play with new tools that have not been fully tested out creates headaches and takes time away from other things busy people must do everyday. As Dave suggests, learning and using new technologies productively takes time, developing and locating content takes time, interacting with students and networks takes time, learning new technologies takes time, and then there is family life….It will be interesting to see if google + is more useful for collaboration than other formats.

By: Marius

Marius — Tue, 05 Jul 2011 22:05:08 +0000

Yummy stuff, but… I have a thesis to write 🙂

By: Nellie Deutsch

Nellie Deutsch — Tue, 05 Jul 2011 13:27:56 +0000

I love blogs because they allow use to share our opinions publicly and encourage others to think. However, whatever opinion we may have, it is our truth. No one can take our truth away from us. So while it’s nice to share ideas, I think we may benefit from accepting diversity and trying to see why certain opinions stir something inside of us and make us want to lash back.

By: George Siemens

George Siemens — Mon, 04 Jul 2011 18:58:11 +0000

@Dave – it seems that you suffer from thesis envy.

By: George Siemens

George Siemens — Mon, 04 Jul 2011 18:56:57 +0000

@Suzanne – asking questions such as “how does this work” or “what can I do differently with this new tool” do not limit options the same way as “do you have time to teach others”. The first set of questions leads to more exploration. The three questions Dave posits lead to filtering. I’d like the system to filter, not the advice given before people start.

In terms of “why ask questions” – in the context that I was responding, I was obviously replying to Dave’s three questions. I wasn’t stating that we should never ask questions about anything. I was replying to the theme of Dave’s post of “three questions to ask before you use tech”. In terms of people – I mean all of them that are about to use a new tech.

By: admin

admin — Mon, 04 Jul 2011 18:54:21 +0000

In reply to George Siemens.

I think you might be making fun of me george… i note that this kind of sarcasm comes from those putting off writing their thesis…

My critique of google+ was for how the project was conceived, not for how individuals will approach it. I would not discourage anyone from checking it out…

George Siemens approach to answering people’s questions…
“hey george, google+, should i check that out?”
“You should go check that out for yourself!”

My approach
“hey dave, google+, should i check that out?”
“well, it depends, if you’re going to, make sure you set aside some time to figure out how things are going to work for you. It’ll take some fiddling to get the circles thing to work for you, and if you’re going to use it for projects, you’ll have to make sure that everyone in the project learns how to use it”

Or am i missing something? 🙂

By: Suzanne Aurilio

Suzanne Aurilio — Mon, 04 Jul 2011 18:52:21 +0000

George:

You asked: Why do people need to ask questions at all?
Who are the “people” you’re talking about? I observed technology enthusiasts (I’m one of them ;)) make a lot of assumptions about “everyone else” and their motivations and interest in technology.

You asked: Why not just experiment?
Perhaps because some people have neither the time nor the inclination to. I’m also not sure why I should assume experimentation is inherently a good thing.
34 yr old woman says: I have 2 jobs, and 3 kids to tend to, what’s the value proposition?

You said: I didn’t ask any questions when I started with Twitter/Blogging/whatever.
I started using them and still asked questions, and still do. Isn’t that what experimentation is about?